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11:21 pm
May 25, 2011


Jeremy B

Folsom, CA

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caz craig said:

David, Australian and British English is the same- we have left it in its original state :) After living in the US for four years, I'm kinda confused now to how to spell words, which punctuation to use and which side of the road to drive on. Only one of those really bothers me :)

 

I mix up the spelling on my blog so I can hit both US and rest of the world, but really US is where I get most of my traffic so I concentrate on that and will have to take the "You're a traitor" comments I receive. 

 

Thanks Mike, once again for being so informative. I think I understand more but the Google haze still lingers.

I'll say this Caz.  Everyone in the US spells 'traveler' and 'traveling' correctly.  Everyone else spells it wrong!  Consider we all blog about travel, that seemed like a good word to focus on for our spelling differences!  Laugh

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11:35 am
May 25, 2011


m

United States

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posts 471

Another twist to the Google Mystery.

It seems that Google will use information from other pages in a site to rank another page for a keyword. This is an important aspect that you can use to boost a specific keyword you are struggling with. Here is a recent example:

It appears that I rank for the search term "High Speed Underwater Diving Telephone." The first thing that comes to mind is what was the guy smoking that did that search and is it legal in my country?

The second thing is that this proves my theory on the power of LSI. The first four words of that phrase are not nouns. Yet I have written a piece on High speed underwater trains and Diving. Nothing about underwater phones. However, it has ranked an article about diving with full face masks where you can talk to your dive buddy. The word "telephone" is not in there at all. Talking underwater is though.

 

That might seem useless but if you know your long tail keywords, it will attract attention to your main keyword by using them in other posts. 

The point: If you want to rank for a certain keyword you can go through some of your old posts and make some changes by using bold, italics etc.. on any words that could be used for long tail keywords for the post you are trying to rank for even if the old posts really have nothing to do with the new post.

Or something like that….it is early and coffee is still brewing.

3:54 pm
May 23, 2011


David

French South West

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posts 255

LOL.

I can transcribe the "French accent in English" for French readers very well, but it was my first attempt at doing so for English readers. :-)

My actual spoken English does have a French accent, but it's not as bad as the typical Frenchman (yes, I do pronounce "h" and "th" properly, I just have problems with tonic accents). 

 

 

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1:50 pm
May 23, 2011


Todd Wassel

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Hmmm, David, I'm picturing you more as an Italian with that accent :) You really must speak English well if you can't get a French English accent correct!

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8:16 am
May 23, 2011


David

French South West

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@Caz Craig: LOL for the "traitor". Yeah, some people just can't deal with foreign languages (or even foreign stuff). I have been accused several times by French people of showing off because my spoken English is somewhat decent and "Hi dontuh speekah likeuh zissuh".

 

@Mike: you describe exactly what happened to my French blog in February. Remember my freak out? (it coincided with the Panda thing). Site still indexed but not appearing anywhere in search results. Lasted two weeks and now, it's doing much better than it used to do.

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6:06 am
May 23, 2011


m

United States

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posts 471

Google can certainly create a haze. Wait until you hit a black hole. Those are a real head scratcher. It has happened on several of my sites before and just happened to Exotic Visitors for the past week. On average I get about 200 to 250 Google searches per day. Some times there are odd days where I end up with maybe 20 or 25 so I check my keyword rankings. That is kinda normal for off days. But when you hit a black hole it can create a panic.

What happens is that all of a sudden the entire site loses it's rankings. Not sandboxed where you end up removed from Google indexing (which sux and lasts for months), but go from position one to position 450. It happens to every page on a site. It lasts about a week and can be quite confusing. A lot of people scramble to try and fix their sites in vain. If you are still indexed then there is nothing to worry about. It fixes itself after a week or two. Exotic Visitors is back to normal as of yesterday and getting even more traffic than usual.

 

I am not sure what causes it but I have noticed that all my rankings tend to improve after it is over, which leads me to believe it is not a glitch. I am not sure if it is some type of Google Limbo while they analyze it or what. If it happens to anyone don't panic…it works it's way out. 

3:42 am
May 23, 2011


caz craig

Australia

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posts 65

David, Australian and British English is the same- we have left it in its original state :) After living in the US for four years, I'm kinda confused now to how to spell words, which punctuation to use and which side of the road to drive on. Only one of those really bothers me :)

 

I mix up the spelling on my blog so I can hit both US and rest of the world, but really US is where I get most of my traffic so I concentrate on that and will have to take the "You're a traitor" comments I receive. 

 

Thanks Mike, once again for being so informative. I think I understand more but the Google haze still lingers.

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12:09 am
May 23, 2011


David

French South West

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posts 255

Yeah Mike, I see what you mean.

As you underline, it usually is not an issue with clearly French keywords (and search results es on google.com and google.fr for French phrases are usually roughly the same).

 

I was wondering more about keywords that are the same in different languages, such as Japanese city names. :-)

But it was really a random question that Caz & Craig's post triggered, not a specific issue I have.

 

That being said, the vast majority of my searches come from google.fr, very few come from .be, .ch or .ca but as there are also much less people in those countries, I don't know what I can make of this data.

 

On a side note, is Australian spelling different from British spelling?

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11:58 pm
May 22, 2011


m

United States

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posts 471

@ David. At first it may seem like you are limited with setting your region and not being able to set to multiple regions such as French speaking countries. 

Actually it is the other way around. Setting the location is just a way to limit your "customers" so to speak.  By using a global setting you are just taking the limits off. French speaking countries will be able to find you easier than non-French speaking countries. The reason for that is the keywords you use. It is doubtful Australians will be doing a search for "oeufs à la vente", and more likely they will search for "eggs for sale" So it does not really matter if you only select French speaking countries.

Australian spelling will ultimately tell Google the site is geared to Oz and not US. No idea what mixing spellings would do, but I know that using dialects is part of the algorithm.

Custom search and the new browsers are a very good for Google to help weed out spam. By analyzing which sites you frequent, Google is able to make the search a little more fine tuned. It may make you lose a little traffic on one side but it will bring more traffic on the other. People that are looking for sites like yours will find it easier. 

8:09 pm
May 22, 2011


Todd Wassel

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posts 314

Dear Craig and Caz, I for one support your use of American English and will be happy to fight any of your Aussie naysayers for you :) I keep my site set to global and target the US mostly, but get lots of other people coming and going. I think it pays to have a global search result rather than a specific one if you are not a location based company.

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10:10 am
May 22, 2011


David

French South West

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posts 255

I'm jumping in to add a few questions/topics about Google.

 

About Google "geographical area" is there a way to set it for several countries?

My English blog is not localized and I don't think I ever will localize it (I actually get a good share of traffic from Malaysia, who would have thought that? traffic I may have not gotten had I localized it).

But my French blog is localized in France by default (being a .fr). It's alright in a certain sense, most of my readership is from France, but isn't it a problem for searches from other French speaking countries (not mentioning Japan, as the blog also targets French speakers in Japan, either expats or Japanese people who can read French).

Is there a way to localize your blog to several countries? 

I always found it strange from Google to reduce things to only one country like that, the web being worldwide and all.

 

Second question/comment (it's really more of a comment).

Google searches are more and more personalized. When googling something from Chrome (my default browser, linked to my main google account) or from Rockmelt (Chromium-based new browser, google is localized in France for this one, regardless of the language I use) or Firefox (google is not localized nor linked to a specific account on this one) I get completely different results for the same keywords.

I see why, but what does it entail for SEO. Let's say you manage to get to page 1 on that cherished keyword, but then, because google will give personalized results to more and more people, how do you deal with that?

 

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1:45 pm
May 20, 2011


caz craig

Australia

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posts 65

Thanks Mike! Gosh trying to understand all this is a headache. I have my site listed as global site.

I don't really want to be Australia location specific. I'm wanting to land more on the US search site. Australia is so (insert colourful adjective that begins with F) backwards with internet and technology that I'm probably better off aiming for somewhere else. (I've already been abused on my site recently for having US spelling instead of Aussie- whatever.)

There are just too many things to think about with this google garbage.

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1:19 pm
May 20, 2011


m

United States

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posts 471

There are really two main things to consider. First is whether or not your site is a global site or directed towards a specific area. Obviously yours is global so you want to make sure that your Webmaster Tools Settings in Google are not set to a certain geographical area.

The next thing to look at is your overall blog. If your blog holds a lot of weight in Australia due to a lot of information about Australia then you may rank much better there then in other parts of the world. You cannot really look at it as though you rank well for one place and not another, you just have to look at where you are not ranking well and concentrate on that. 

Continuing to build links will improve your rankings across the board. Another way to build location specific ranking is to create inner links. By adding a single link to another page that is location specific you will kind of tie it all together for the search engines and build more domain authority for that location.

There is a third factor that is usually very temporary and that is that Google uses several data centers. While you may get position one in the US for a keyword it can take up to 12 weeks for it to hit the UK. Oddly enough the UK is very slow.

11:50 am
May 20, 2011


caz craig

Australia

Member

posts 65

So I'm learning more about SEO and some of my keywords are now landing on the first and second page of google. Yeah for me!

But,each time I learn something new about google I think what is the point. There are just so many bloody variables.

How do you go about your keyword research and selecting keywords when each person who searches in google is going to get different results based on what country they are searching from, what their interests are and all these other factors that I'm learning about come into play.

so while i might be the number 3 position in google for San Francisco Travel Tips in Australia, in America I could be at 200 and no one sees me!!

Thoughts? suggestions? solutions?

Much appreciated.

Caz and Craig Makepeace

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y Travel Blog

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